All content appearing on this site is owned and maintained by the Fortify Your Faith Foundation, a tax-exempt, not-for-profit, religious corporation as defined under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. (December 15, 1896, page 306) The Watchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah's spirit "does not mean those now serving as Jehovah's witnesses are inspired. latest As the Bible states, These persons are SELECTED by Jehovah. 13 The attack of Gog. latest Tweet. PRIVACY SETTINGS, https://assetsnffrgf-a.akamaihd.net/assets/m/2019561/univ/art/2019561_univ_sqr_xl.jpg, THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, https://assetsnffrgf-a.akamaihd.net/assets/a/w/E/201909/wpub/w_E_201909_lg.jpg. Even then, the governing body will have a challenge in convincing ordinary Witnesses to hang around until then. The 2034 date is thoroughly refuted by the numbers in the Insight book. One elder suggested it might be Iraq, or even the UN. SONG 143 Keep Working, Watching, and Waiting. [Christ] outlined things that would befall the Jewish nation during the execution of Jehovahs judgment upon Jerusalem at the hands of the Roman general Titus (Dan. Those events occurred over many decades. Welcome This website was founded by dedicated, baptized Jehovah's Witnesses. 20:17, 22,23) And he may use his angels to slay the wicked. 6:33; 24:14) It also includes supporting Christs anointed brothers as they care for their weighty responsibilities.Matt. Why were publishers doing more hours (per publisher) in the late 1980s/early 1990s than in 1975? Sure, you'd lose some members but I would bet you'd keep more born-ins who view JWism as just another religion. Either that or there is a contradiction between Matthew and Luke on this matter. The Witnesses, however, assign a most strange interpretation to the phrase. She has prostituted herself spiritually by forming alliances with earths rulers. 14 True, some expectations that appeared to be backed up by Bible chronology did not materialize at the anticipated time. Her grandfather laughed when Armageddon didn't happen in 1914, CT Russell was sweating bullets because he didn't know what to say to anyone, he was panicking and pacing back and forth all night, they were . It doesn't have to be either/or. Two portions of scripture were relied upon heavily as prophetic proof-texts that Armageddon was imminent. 2:26, 27; 7:9,10) Yes, what a privilege the great crowd will have had to support Jehovahs anointed servants while these were still on earth! They're probably waiting for some newsworthy event to take place and they'll call it a "sign". -2 Thess. They gathered them together to . 3. He has prospered their work of preaching "this good news of the kingdom" in 194 different lands to date. 4. Like that ancient era, Christs presence would be a period of time during which people would be too caught up in the day-to-day affairs of life to take a note of a warning being given. ***15 Yes, Jehovah's people have had to revise expectations from time to time. You would think that somebody who had the absolute truth would have a track record of at least having absolute truth for some amount of time, before they had to change it. 6 How will God defeat his enemies at Armageddon? To teach his disciples the importance of keeping on the watch, Jesus told them: "Note the fig tree and all the other trees: When they are already in the bud, by observing it you know for yourselves that now the summer is near.". The ten horns represent the current political powers supporting that organization. Because of our eagerness, we have hoped for the new system earlier than Jehovah's timetable has called for it. 11 Jehovah will destroy the great prostitute by means of the ten horns of a scarlet-colored wild beast. That figurative wild beast represents the United Nations. 8 Footnote: THE SUPREME COURT STILL INTERPRETS, thank God; and Christ Jesus, the Court?s official mouthpiece of interpretation, reserves to himself that office as head of Jehovah?s ?faithful and wise servant? First, there is no literal mountain of Megiddo. The account in Luke is admittedly much clearer in putting emphasis on the event, it occurred rather than the days of. It's obvious to me that leadership needs to fire up the members in some way. 12-18) Noteworthy is the sentence that says: "Rather than trying to decide whether a certain person, family or group of persons . Can we be intellectually honest in using this account in Matthew 24: 37-39 to say that it is referring to a period of time rather than an event? Murderers! Jehovah's Witness 'ordered to renounce faith and join Russian army' Europe. Nevertheless, the proclamation will be just another demon-inspired lie. (2Chron. The Jehovahs Witness view of the battle of Armageddon is but one example of the ineptness of this group to analyze biblical prophecy. They will then be part of the heavenly armies that will crush Gog and safeguard a great crowd of sheeplike ones. if this generation is meant an era then it is to be 200yrs so1914+200=2114. 38:3, 4, 18, 21-23. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his "slave" to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. In 2014, a San Diego judge ordered Watchtower to award $13.5 million to a man who was abused by a church . 6/1/99 and 8/15/99 Watchtowers each had articles that drew the parallel between the JWs work and Noah's. If an organization is to be fully theocratic, it must be directed and controlled altogether by God and by the forces he operates. Im not questioning the argument for the presence being some period of time, it is simply that to use these verses (Matthew 24:37-39 and Luke 12:26-28) to definitively do so creates more questions and speculation than it needs to, given all of the other proof texts and reasoning that could be used (to support the parousia being a period of time). 11. Jehovah's Witnesses state that God's true name is "Jehovah.". I'll bring the organization into the promised land, oh yeah! Do Jehovah?s Witnesses claim that Jehovah God speaks through them? Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. The contextual wording has it emphasis not in the length (period) of time people where involved in this behavior, but in that this behavior caused them to miss the sudden event. Yep just as they said Moses screwed up too, only they failed to point out that he was condemed to not see the Promised Land. 17:3,16) That swift destructionas if in one daywill come as a shock to those who supported her. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. You would likely increase cash flow. Jehovah's Witnesses Sources of Authority ( Gense 6:3) Ce decret divin mis en 2490 avant notre re marqu le commencement de la fin pour le monde impie. In what way will Christs anointed brothers be able to return the kindness shown them? 10 But who is at the head of this rapidly expanding congregation, you ask? Strictly speaking, it refers to the situation to which the kings of the entire inhabited earth are gathered in opposition to Jehovah. 7-8. []. If it were true, I wouldn't need to worry about Armageddon anyways, as I will surely be dead by then. (2Chron. Through this agency he is having carried out prophesying on an intensified and unparalleled scale . Barking at an Empty Log: Atheism & Millennialism. 2 The Bible shows that the war of Armageddon will save mankind by ending human rule. when would they say their 144,000 would come from. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. We are certainly in 'the time of the end.' 16:14) However, in this article, we will also use the term Armageddon to refer to the war that immediately follows the gathering of the kings of the earth. The only consistent thing about that record has been its absolute failure. ", ok, so here is MY gripe. watchtower It is vital, therefore, that each one recognize that Jesus Christ is the Head of the Christian congregation, as well as showing proper regard for those on earth who have been theocratically appointed to positions of oversight.-Phil. King of the North 1914 to Armageddon; GT Timeline. I don't know how it reads in French, but the english version seems to me to be just an illustration - Just as Noah waited a long time for the end, we should be prepared to also wait a long time. How can we remain faithful to Jehovah as Armageddon draws near? *** Watchtower 1981 December 1 p.27 The Path of the Righteous Does Keep Getting Brighter ***. Thieves! (Rev. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah's Witnesses. 8:3) How so? (b)What questions will we consider in this article? (Acts 15:16, 17; Rev. "The year 1940 is certain to be the most important year yet, because Armageddon is very near. God gave the people in Noah's day 120 years, and perhaps he was giving us 120 years also. . HAVE you heard people apply the word Armageddon to a nuclear war or an environmental disaster? 4. One would suppose (and even hope) that eventually they would learn from their dismal record of date-setting blunders. (The Finished Mystery, 1917 edition, p. 258), 1917 "It is the Day of Vengeance, which began in the world war of 1914 and which will break like a furious morning storm in 1918." Don't cry Slimboy, its early here on the east coast on my side of the pond and most of the rest of the yanks are still in bed, I'll give it a read after my next cup of joe. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." Songez ce qu'il signifiait : plus que 120 ans et Jhovah allait amener" un dluge d'eau sur la terre, pour ravager de dessous les cieux toute chair dans laquelle la force de vie est en action" - Gense 6:17 7 () Et nous ? marked the beginning of the end for that ungodly world. The first was the initial portion of Matthew 24, while the latter was an excerpt from Pauls second epistle to Timothy. They may be surprised by the sudden start of Jehovahs day, but they will not be caught off guard. There may be some infighting about this as there was in Franz' day, but some new 'prophet' will need to come forward from among them! (b)Why will our knowing Jehovah prove to be a blessing at Armageddon? (Watchtower 1925, p. 56), 1940 The Kingdom is here, the King is enthroned. Wherever they are on earth, Gods people will trust in him when the attack is launched (See paragraph13)*. :) But wait, if there is a whole mutli-million $ industry for lovers of sado-masochism, then there's nothing extraordinary about the WTS business always taking its faithful members on a ride. "My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do," says Jehovah. . Russell, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. Because that will be 120 years from when the Watchtower was first published. 2034 was one of the dates Newton determined. You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets , or witnesses for God. You will see a gradual emphasis of this until the mid-to-late 2020s when they will go completely nuts with it like they did in 1914, 1915, 1925, 1975. Of special interest are the expressions this generation, and all.. 1975 came and went and the governing body had to deal with the fallout for the coming 5 years until things started to pick up again. Copyright 2023 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. The memory of 1975 is still too fresh for many, and they know their critics (us) will quickly sieze upon such mistakes. How thankful we should be for the provision God has made of this slave class, the modern spiritual remnant, as they faithfully dispense the revealed truths of Jehovah ! THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, Share *** 14 True, some expectations that appeared to be backed up by Bible chronology did not materialize at the anticipated time. TERMS OF USE Fred Franz managed to publish more definite statements about 1975 than the other members would have liked. How should we respond to warnings we have been given? The core notion embraced by Jehovah's Witnesses is that Armageddon is imminent, and that the only way to be saved from a terrible end-times death is to abide by their tenets, which are dispensed . By putting this value in the parallel equation we get the same result, 2014! 2, p. 98-99, 1889), 1908 "In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A. D. And they will not recover until they make a new prediction That is all history you know already, so sorry for going over it again. I am the new Prophet.I am annointed..DAMMIT. They contend: It is the generation of people who saw the catastrophic events that broke forth in connection with World War I from 1914 onward (Watchtower, op. 46:10) Hence, Jehovah's purposes, and time, for establishing a righteous new order are firmly fixed.Awake! They will make her devastated and naked by plundering her wealth and exposing her wickedness. LOL. Jehovah God is therefore the only Supreme Court of interpretation of His inspired word. To such remnant of faithful servants of Jehovah God Christ Jesus has entrusted all ?his goods?, or earthly interests of the Kingdom. It's amazing that other Christians will mock us for this scriptural belief but at the same time tell . The Jehovah's Witnesses believe that saluting flags, including that of the United States, is tantamount to worshipping a graven image. Should we use these accounts in Matthew and Luke to indicate an extended period of time of the presence of Jesus Christ? I didn't see this as an endorsement of 2035 as the end, but rather a statement that there's still lots of time left. Megiddo was a city in ancient Israel. 37:36) Whatever means God uses, his victory will be complete. The Bible says the UN will . class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.' A few weeks later, the Jehovah's Witnesses closed on a $200 million sale of that building to the private equity firm Kayne Anderson Real Estate Advisors, which plans to turn the property into . 28 Likewise, just as it occurred in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building.. Final Prophecy Cycle Timeline Images; . They say the term "God," is merely a title, and that the real name for God is "Jehovah.". 1. Jehovahs Witnesses teaches that Armageddon will start in the year 2034. 15. The berating talks, guilt inducing WT studies, pressure from the CO & DOs, placement of MTS grads, none have really worked. I recall giving a PT about the last days (early 90s) and even using the argument that we were almost at the 80 year anniversary of 1914 and that generation didn't have many left. We also show that we know him when we love and obey him and give him our exclusive devotion. The word Armageddon appears just once in the Scriptures, and it comes from a Hebrew term that means Mountain of Megiddo. (Rev. 8 That will be the foretold proclamation of peace and security. Why will world leaders say that? You must not get frightened at him.'. 8 Replies Time will tell. (Read Ezekiel 38:2, 8,9.) Institute tithing at some point so they can reasonably budget and make a go of it. New features of the work have required new methods, which has meant revisions and changes from time to time in organization instructions, but it is all a part of the advancement of Jehovah's theocratically controlled organization under the immediate direction of Jehovah God himself. Wreckage from a plane crash is shown on Holston Mountain near Elizabethton on Sunday. (Genesis 15:13; Acts 7:6, 17, 23, 25, 30, 34) Were not Christ's apostles overanxious to see the Kingdom established, not to speak of their complete misunderstanding as to what the Kingdom really is? Had not God's organisation been teaching about the 'generation' for decades? jw Revelation is clear that it is the Kings of the earth versus God. Jehovah's Witnesses - for indeed, it is they - are stepping up their presence in city centres across the UK in an effort to attract converts to a church that claims more than 8 million . 11 Replies No; Christ Jesus the King has not entrusted that office to them. The glorious reign of Christ that shall bring blessings to the world will immediately follow. In contrast, what the Bible says about Armageddon involves good news, a cause for happiness! 6/1/99 and 8/15/99 Watchtowers each had articles that drew the parallel between the JWs work and Noah's. 1879 was the start of The Watchtower and 1999 was 120 years later. At 1Thessalonians 5:2, Jehovahs day refers to the great tribulation. (Rev. In this article, we discuss what Armageddon is, what events will lead up to it, and how we can remain faithful as the end draws near. latest 6. After the destruction of all false religious organizations, Gods people will stand out like a lone tree that survived a fierce storm. (Ps. 16:16. Incredibly, however, they manipulate the expression this generation across more than 2,000 years of history to embrace the modern era. I haven't looked at the youtube but YES, it has already been subtly hinted at and implied that the parallel of Noah's day with the "last days" would also include a 120 year period of preaching/warning work (that would be from 1914 to 2034). How so? When the planet earth is destroyed, it will be a consequence of militant muslims or tectonic or planetary/solar mechanics and not because of any intervention from the "spirit realm.". How may Jehovah defeat his enemies at Armageddon? How do we know that Armageddon refers to a symbolic place? I don't know what I am talking about read this post at your peril. They can either come out with the date soon in the hope of short-term gains - or they can keep it under their hat until the mid-2020s. Was the Siege at Jerusalem in A.D. 70 the Worst in World History? (Acts 1:6; compare Luke 19:11; 24:21.) Unlike Jews, Sinti and Roma (" Gypsies "), and others persecuted and killed by virtue of their birth, Jehovah's Witnesses had the opportunity to escape . ^ par. latest They'll work their way up to it over the next couple decades, you'll see. I was just a young kid during the 75 debacle but I do remember the energy and excitment thinking that the great trib was going to start any day now (fear too, but that's another story). "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.". And you can tell when Armageddon is near when you see the things . The group took on the name International Bible Students Association and by 1914 it . And she has spilled much blood, including the blood of Gods servants. Furthermore, followers of the sect are three times more likely to be diagnosed as suffering . Let us take a closer look at those two major events. 3:25,26. At Armageddon, Gods people will not fight. They proudly bear his name, and they have obeyed his command to flee from Babylon the Great. Jehovah's Witnesses originated as a branch of the Bible Student movement, which developed in the United States in the 1870s among followers of Christian restorationist minister Charles Taze Russell.Bible Student missionaries were sent to England in 1881 and the first overseas branch was opened in London in 1900. Zoning, tax questions. Share (b)According to Ezekiel 38:2, 8, 9, what will bring Gog to the symbolic place called Armageddon? The eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses is central to their religious beliefs. (Rev. 1:3) The war of Armageddon will not destroy but save mankind! *** Awake! What was missing? Pin On Jehovah S Witnesses On The Move . 4. Jehovah's Witnesses are members of a Christian-based religious movement probably best known for their door-to-door evangelistic work. Sadly, this trend is affecting Jehovah's Witnesses around the world. Lots of threats - pandemic, China, Russia, terrorism and no real integrity in leadership are unnerving, however the JW's have a clear and tangible history of falsely prophesying Armageddon, actually 6 or 7 separate and distinct episodes in their brief ~140 year history - yes "God's Organization" is less than 200 yrs old as while Jesus walked . ***. Lots of reasons, but I think that the main one is the 'generation' prophecy. To the contrary, Jehovah's faithful witnesses have been progressively brought to an understanding of Jehovah's purposes, which are clearer now than ever before in history . WT just did a publicity thing trumping up Isaac Newton in one of the mags this past autumn. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years. So, can it now be reasoned that there is at least some indication that the presence of Jesus Christ can now be numbered at 120 years based upon the record of the history of Noah (or the days of Noah) in Genesis, making the end now to appear to come in 2034? A third requirement is that we be associated with God's channel, his organization. Jehovah's Witnesses are among the most racially and ethnically diverse religious groups in America. The wording in the following quotations from the WT is carefully presented so as to obfuscate the real meaning. For example, he may use earthquakes, hail, and lightning. Sure, 2035 will roll around and the world will still be kicking along and there will be fall out from another false prophesy but if you could increase the numbers from 7 million to 14 million, who cares if you lose even 25%. *** w84 12/1 p. 18 Keep Ready! Since the generation that overlapped with the eagle-eyed anointed that saw the enthronement that also overlapped the end of the gentile times. Why did God connect his final great war with Megiddo? Why not? Aussi ses jours se monteront-ils cent vint ans." It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes." Jehovah has allowed the nations time to experiment with all different forms of government. Will religious leaders participate? For one thing, among Witnesses, the generation idea had a lot more credibility than the 1975 chronology. Since his enthronement in 1914 and the 3.5 years it took for the examination to determine who could be called the FDS. The prospect of dying at Armageddon is a terrible thing for a Jehovahs Witness because they are taught that . ^ par. Answer (1 of 23): Jehovah God is the ONLY one who decides who will have the privilege of being anointed/born again or not. A plane carrying five Jehovah's Witness ministers crashed Saturday, killing all aboard, officials said. 19:16) This is what makes the congregation theocratic in structure, adhering to God-rule. (C.T. A quarter of a century ago I filed a copy of the Watchtower magazine (published and distributed by the "Jehovah's Witnesses"). In verse 5, the apostles concluding admonition is: from these turn away. The expression turn away renders the Greek term apotrepou, an imperative mood, present tense, middle voice form, together with the singular number/masculine gender. Published March 6, 2022 8:55 a.m. PST. Wow long topic title. (Ezek. How foolish to take the view that expectations needing some adjustment should call into question the whole body of truth! | 38:23) Yes, Armageddon is good news for those who know God, obey his Son, and endure to the end.Matt. There is little surprise that the movement frequently has been dubbed a non-prophet enterprise. It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the 'slave' as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBYGp5gD-oo&feature=related. View Rude Words. And all that without upsetting the majority of its members. some new 'prophet' will need to come forward from among them! And, since Luke included both Noah and Lot in his discussion, we would now have to calculate the time that Lot was in Sodom and figure this into our calculations, and I have been unable to find any reference to that time period anywhere. Anointed who 'saw the events of 1914' born Dec 31, 1914 11:59pm dies Dec 31, 2034 at 11:59 pm.. At that very moment the 'generation' that will see Armageddon is born Dec 31, 2034 at 11:59 and lives another 120 years thusly it is 'logical evidence' that Armageddon shall commence in 2154. If they keep going the way they do, I see a slow death by a thousand cuts. by Nicolas It is Gods spirit that bears witness with that persons spirit that anoints them with the heavenly hope.
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